support that. so, again, energy on all sides on this moral question. >> that's right. and morally and ideologically, it spills over into the whole idea of a smaller government, which of course is what the conservatives want very much. >> and that's a big issue on the campaign trail, too, which is really heightening all of the political rhetoric on capitol hill, out on the campaign trail. so, many of the gop candidates are out there really appealing to the conservative base, talking about these issues. michele bachmann, the new gop candidate, who is an evangelical christian, very much reaching out to her base, saying, "i'm not going to support, i'm not going to vote for any debt ceiling measure that doesn't include dramatic spending cuts." and, of course, you know religious conservatives are so important for the gop during this period because about 40% of republican primary voters are self-identified evangelicals so, everybody's sort of reaching out to them, seeing it as a big stepping stone.